'True' Plein Air - Plein Eire2024-03-28T14:42:25Zhttps://pleineire.ning.com/forum/topics/true-plein-air?commentId=4851125%3AComment%3A17342&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAh ah ah, very funny and inte…tag:pleineire.ning.com,2011-01-15:4851125:Comment:173472011-01-15T11:39:05.000ZHelder Vieirahttps://pleineire.ning.com/profile/HelderVieira
Ah ah ah, very funny and intelligent way to put it, Tony! Well, very swampy terrain needs some greys...
Ah ah ah, very funny and intelligent way to put it, Tony! Well, very swampy terrain needs some greys... Helder, I congratulate you on…tag:pleineire.ning.com,2011-01-15:4851125:Comment:173422011-01-15T10:29:00.000ZTony Robinsonhttps://pleineire.ning.com/profile/TonyRobinson
Helder, I congratulate you on your palette which is laid out very well and has neither black nor white but only an infinite range of delightful greys from the lightest to the very darkest.
Helder, I congratulate you on your palette which is laid out very well and has neither black nor white but only an infinite range of delightful greys from the lightest to the very darkest. What is true plein air painti…tag:pleineire.ning.com,2011-01-15:4851125:Comment:173312011-01-15T08:19:54.000ZHelder Vieirahttps://pleineire.ning.com/profile/HelderVieira
<p>What is true plein air painting?<br></br>I don't have the answer and my knowledge of english language is very limited to profoundly argue the substance of the theme, but I have some questions that I would like to leave here.<br></br>Lets imagine two situations, situation 1 and situation 2.</p>
<p>Situation 1<br></br>You are in the midle of a field, in a valley, mountains around you, and you are painting the trees and this little creek.<br></br>Is this still plein air painting?</p>
<p>The sun is very hot,…</p>
<p>What is true plein air painting?<br/>I don't have the answer and my knowledge of english language is very limited to profoundly argue the substance of the theme, but I have some questions that I would like to leave here.<br/>Lets imagine two situations, situation 1 and situation 2.</p>
<p>Situation 1<br/>You are in the midle of a field, in a valley, mountains around you, and you are painting the trees and this little creek.<br/>Is this still plein air painting?</p>
<p>The sun is very hot, so you put a hat on your head and you continue to paint. Is this still plein air painting?</p>
<p>Instead of a hat, you open an umbrella and continue to paint under the umbrella. Is this still plein air painting?</p>
<p>Instead of an umbrella you enter your car and from there you continue to paint the very same landscape in front of you. Is this still plein air painting?</p>
<p>Instead of the car, you enter in this little house, that happend to be there, and from the window you continue to paint the very same landscape. Is this still plein air painting?</p>
<p>Situation 2<br/>You are in your studio painting a still life set on a table.<br/>Is this still plein air painting?</p>
<p>But the light on your canvas was not good enough, so you set up your easel outside the studio and continue to paint the very same still life, through the window. Is this still plein air painting?</p>
<p>Then you thought of bringing everything out of the studio to your backyard, set up and paint. Is this still plein air painting?</p>
<p>Finally, you put everything in your car and off you go to this field in this valley, mountains around, set up the still life and your canvas on the easel and start to paint this very same still life. Is this still plein air painting?</p> I found two short videos on y…tag:pleineire.ning.com,2011-01-13:4851125:Comment:172682011-01-13T21:50:15.000ZPatrick Brennanhttps://pleineire.ning.com/profile/PatrickBrennan
I found two short videos on you tube plane aire painting. Bothe to me are a bit extreem, making our venuers seem minor. 1 is plaine aire painting from Grizzley Peak ( John Kilduff). 2 Landscape artist Mark Brennan ( no relative) Time laps painting Wilderness. Take a look.
I found two short videos on you tube plane aire painting. Bothe to me are a bit extreem, making our venuers seem minor. 1 is plaine aire painting from Grizzley Peak ( John Kilduff). 2 Landscape artist Mark Brennan ( no relative) Time laps painting Wilderness. Take a look. Hi there, . after joining P…tag:pleineire.ning.com,2010-12-19:4851125:Comment:166442010-12-19T22:17:58.000ZIan Gordonhttps://pleineire.ning.com/profile/IanGordon
<p>Hi there, . after joining Plein Eire a couple of years ago I didn't go any further being 'typically' deeply suspicious</p>
<p>of anything involving any other people ! However, Facebook has slowly but surely weened me onto social networking. . and now , I'm back, cos I'm extremely interested in these definitions of 'plein air'. Constantly</p>
<p>I'm explaining to visitors at my studio/gallery at An Clachan Craft Centre , An Chúirt Hotel, Gweedore, Co.Donegal, that this painting is 90%…</p>
<p>Hi there, . after joining Plein Eire a couple of years ago I didn't go any further being 'typically' deeply suspicious</p>
<p>of anything involving any other people ! However, Facebook has slowly but surely weened me onto social networking. . and now , I'm back, cos I'm extremely interested in these definitions of 'plein air'. Constantly</p>
<p>I'm explaining to visitors at my studio/gallery at An Clachan Craft Centre , An Chúirt Hotel, Gweedore, Co.Donegal, that this painting is 90% painted outside; this one here is 50/50, this one is 100%, and this other</p>
<p>one is only about a fifth painted outside, but yes, at 1.40 by 1.60 metres it's certainly quite big and I reached</p>
<p>a point where I had to get it inside fast ! And you know what, . after I go through the predictable feeling</p>
<p>of guilt when I confess that a picture isn't 100 % painted outside, I usually get the feeling that the viewer</p>
<p>really, actually mostly doesn't really care how the thing was painted. But maybe that's just me ?</p>
<p>For me , the 100 % painted outside picture is the holy grail . . so I doggedly pursue the dream. But, I give myself a break and do a wee tweak once the picture is indoors if it's crying out for something that doesn't</p>
<p>interfere with the integrity. Often just picking off the twigs and grass etc.</p>
<p>Mmmm, . forgotten what else I was going to say.</p>
<p>Anyway, - Big Thanks Tony, for putting together and maintaining such a brilliant website.</p> Mmm. Never thought about it.…tag:pleineire.ning.com,2010-12-19:4851125:Comment:165872010-12-19T01:55:24.000ZBelinda Fairhttps://pleineire.ning.com/profile/BelindaFair
<p>Mmm. Never thought about it. For me Plein Air is ALL done outside, whatever the weather. Many are unfinished symphonies that I never completed...yet. Must pull some out & see what I can retrieve...or treat as undercoat!! I see nothing wrong with finishing work off at home or in studio, particularly if the location used is somewhere you dont frequent. It may be inpractical to return to the location to finish it...for example another country, while on holiday. In this case taking photos…</p>
<p>Mmm. Never thought about it. For me Plein Air is ALL done outside, whatever the weather. Many are unfinished symphonies that I never completed...yet. Must pull some out & see what I can retrieve...or treat as undercoat!! I see nothing wrong with finishing work off at home or in studio, particularly if the location used is somewhere you dont frequent. It may be inpractical to return to the location to finish it...for example another country, while on holiday. In this case taking photos on the day may be useful. I dont have any rules about precentages of time spent outdoors or indoors on a piece, but personally get satisfaction from the total outdoor experience. I have to admit to being a fair-weather painter generally. Snow, ice & cold is actually quite bearable & invigorating. Light rain is fine, but stormy wet weather I havent braved yet. </p> Plein Air painting is a direc…tag:pleineire.ning.com,2010-12-08:4851125:Comment:164152010-12-08T19:28:44.000ZJoe Mahonhttps://pleineire.ning.com/profile/JoeMahon
Plein Air painting is a direct approach to paint what is in front of the artist away from the comfort of a studio or wherever one paints. It then in itself is a challenge to battle against the elements, time and the public or whatever, to capture the scene, and it is this very approach that gives spontaneity to a painting. Plein Air work frequently looks very different to studio work from the same artist, so both IMO should be accepted as such. When I am out walking I often see a scene that…
Plein Air painting is a direct approach to paint what is in front of the artist away from the comfort of a studio or wherever one paints. It then in itself is a challenge to battle against the elements, time and the public or whatever, to capture the scene, and it is this very approach that gives spontaneity to a painting. Plein Air work frequently looks very different to studio work from the same artist, so both IMO should be accepted as such. When I am out walking I often see a scene that inspires me or part of scene that stimulates my creative process that I will plan a painting around, so I often create a painting using several components of scenes. Kevin MacPherson paints Plein Air and in the studio and frequently uses his Plein Air studies as his reference for larger studio paintings. I think that as long as people are clear on the distinction of Plein Air and studio work then there should be no fuss, and I see nothing wrong in touching up Plein Air work in the studio, be it 20% or 80% if the initial scene/ idea came from the outdoors. Plein Air painting is another…tag:pleineire.ning.com,2010-12-05:4851125:Comment:163632010-12-05T20:52:42.000ZPatrick Brennanhttps://pleineire.ning.com/profile/PatrickBrennan
Plein Air painting is another way to sharpen your visual awarness and mark making. One perso who seems to take this to another level is an Austrilan artist on you tube, if you have the time look at Robert Hagan's " Cattle Drive". He combines out door painting with Photographs.
Plein Air painting is another way to sharpen your visual awarness and mark making. One perso who seems to take this to another level is an Austrilan artist on you tube, if you have the time look at Robert Hagan's " Cattle Drive". He combines out door painting with Photographs. Come on everyone! We need a r…tag:pleineire.ning.com,2010-12-05:4851125:Comment:163572010-12-05T16:41:07.000ZMichael McGuirehttps://pleineire.ning.com/profile/MichaelMcGuire
Come on everyone! We need a real argument here to get our minds off the miserable cold! Having resisted painting the white stuff for the past week, I finally realised why today - I just plain (or plein?) hate it, and one has to love one's subject I feel to really do it justice. Sorry gone off topic here!
Come on everyone! We need a real argument here to get our minds off the miserable cold! Having resisted painting the white stuff for the past week, I finally realised why today - I just plain (or plein?) hate it, and one has to love one's subject I feel to really do it justice. Sorry gone off topic here! Re your last paragraph, Karen…tag:pleineire.ning.com,2010-12-05:4851125:Comment:163502010-12-05T14:08:51.000ZMichael McGuirehttps://pleineire.ning.com/profile/MichaelMcGuire
Re your last paragraph, Karen, you can achieve this while still doing some touch-ups in the studio. I'm thinking mainly of things like edge variation. Some things can be done more effectively such as softening a tree line against a bright sky for example when the painting has dried slightly overnight. Also if there are any glaring perspective errors (I managed to get a roof angle which was near but not quite at eye level sloping the wrong way in a recent painting). I can't see how leaving that…
Re your last paragraph, Karen, you can achieve this while still doing some touch-ups in the studio. I'm thinking mainly of things like edge variation. Some things can be done more effectively such as softening a tree line against a bright sky for example when the painting has dried slightly overnight. Also if there are any glaring perspective errors (I managed to get a roof angle which was near but not quite at eye level sloping the wrong way in a recent painting). I can't see how leaving that as I painted it would be more "direct and honest" - it was a mistake pure and simple and more a measure of my skill level than the conditions. Whether I fixed that in the studio or on location (if I chose to return the next day), the result would be the exact the same.<br />
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Most viewers probably wouldn't see the minor touch-ups I make to many of my plein airs, but if I didn't fix them, everytime I looked at the painting those pesky little glitches would just grow larger and larger!